You Don’t Need A 5G Phone (Yet)
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– Exactly ten years ago, this summer, I bought my first 4G
smartphone, the HTC Evo, and the experience was less than perfect. The phone was amazing, but that network was too new, too thin, and deployed at too high a frequency to
penetrate buildings very well. So, the end result was I couldn’t use that new 4G network indoors. You might remember a few months back, I tested Verizon’s 5G network in Chicago, and found many of the same issues. All 5G networks are
new, and the first bands Verizon is using for its rollout are many times higher
frequency than even those already high bands that gave
me such trouble back in ’09. That means they penetrate
buildings even more poorly, even if they do provide
incredible data speeds. So what I wanted to find out was, how much difference do a few months and a smaller city make
if you wanna make 5G work in real life? To find out, I took the train
to Providence, Rhode Island, to test out Verizon’s
new 5G network there. And I did the filming, the
editing, and some of the writing on a Galaxy Note 10,
just to see if I could. (soft techno music) The first step in testing
a 5G network, of course, is moving into a 5G phone. So my fellow testers and I met up with our Verizon contact in Providence to temporarily trial Samsung’s
Galaxy Note 10 plus 5G. Visually, it’s totally identical to the standard Note 10 plus, except the cool aura glow paint
job is nowhere to be found. Our coffee shop staging area was located in the heart of Providence’s College Hill, a charming neighborhood
nestled between Brown and RISD. By no coincidence
whatsoever, this coffee shop was less than 200 feet from one of those shiny, new, 5G antenna nodes. So no sooner had we slipped our sims into those new nodes than we were off sidewalk speed testing, and getting the predictably outrageous
download speeds. You can see my buddy
Nirav, from TechnoBuffalo, getting nearly 20 times
the download speed on 5G than the 4G Galaxy Note
10 right next to it. Which was impressive enough
that we totally didn’t realize there was a cute dog right there. Hi doge! Now I wouldn’t have expected anything less from a brand new 5G network
with no customer load, but I also wouldn’t have
agreed to cover this launch if it was just gonna be
Chicago all over again. One of the complaints you may recall from my time in the Windy City is that Chicago’s 5G network
still uses 4G for uploads. And that’s a bummer for
those of us who need to push hi-res video to YouTube, or host high-quality live-streams. So, you’ll be happy to
know that Providence is using 5G in both directions. It’s not symmetrical, but it is about twice as fast as a 4G up-link, on average. So, kudos to Verizon on a big win there. Another thing I couldn’t do in Chicago was maintain a stable
5G connection indoors, and in Providence, I barely
managed to make it happen, just inside the window of our coffee shop. The trouble is the connection was only usable long enough for one speed test. It dropped back down to 4G as soon as I walked away from the window. It was nice while it lasted. In another test across the street, I had a strong 5G
connection while standing on the sidewalk, but when I
took a seat on a staircase with my back to the
network node, I lost it. Nope, 4G LTE. Almost immediately. The city may be smaller, folks, but the basic physics remain the same. The millimeter waves that
Verizon’s using for 5G are hyper-sensitive to any obstacles that come between you and the antenna. In our four hour trek across Providence, we visited a half-dozen 5G nodes, and sometimes staying connected was literally a matter of which direction I was pointing, because
your body blocks the waves. Or even how many leaves were
on the trees above my head! Two bars, and not enough service to even complete a speed test. When the site is within spitting distance, on the top of that pole. Honestly, it’s quite familiar, because, yeah the network is built a little more densely here, you have coverage in more places, and the speeds are a
little faster on the whole, but you can be cruising along
at max speed one second, and the next, glitch-town,
USA, back down to 4G. I tried an Instagram live on 5G, and it was a disaster. Viewers complained of audio sync issues and poor video quality. Now, network upgrades like
implementing beam forming, and just generally expanding the footprint will help with all of this,
but it’s gonna take time. When the connection does
hold, it’s tremendous. I downloaded five and
a half hours of music on Spotify’s maximum quality
setting in one minute. I downloaded this 125 megabyte game that I’ve never heard of in two seconds. It took more than four times that long for the phone to actually install it. And battery life seemed
to hold out a bit better on the Note 10 5G than
on the Galaxy S10 5G I used in Chicago. After four hours of aggressive usage, I had about half a charge left. But taking it back to something else I couldn’t use in Chicago, one of 5G’s true killer
apps is Mobile Hotspot, or at least it’s going to be. See, in Providence, I
could connect my Macbook to a 5G connected Note 10, but I couldn’t get speeds anywhere close to
where they should’ve been. I asked Sascha Segan
from PCMag about this, since he’s also spent
time testing this network, and his take is that this is likely a network misconfiguration problem. He goes more in depth in
a recent piece at PCMag, and I’ll link it below. In sum, though, it’s what I’ve been saying this whole video, and the video before it. It’s just too early. Too early for these nascent
5G networks to be relied upon. And, unless you live right next to a node and don’t mind opening
your window to use it, too early for you to pony up a premium for phones that support it. This video is sponsored by dBrand. Whether your Galaxy Note is 5G or not, it’s a fingerprint magnet, so protect it with the best vinyl skins in the business. Get your dbrand at the link
in the description below. And finally, a word on
editing this sucker, for you video fans out there, this was shot, voiceovered, and edited entirely on the Galaxy
Note 10 Plus in Adobe Rush. And not as part of a sponsored
campaign, or anything, I just wanted to see if I could. You’ve probably noticed
it’s less elaborate than my usual affair. Samsung’s decision to
ditch the headphone jack and not include a dongle in the box meant I couldn’t use a lav mic. So that explains the audio
difference you probably hear, and I had to switch to
wired earbuds while editing because there was just
too much lag on Bluetooth. But those complaints
aside, after three years of needing a computer
to build every video, it was so liberating to
do everything on a phone. Let me know if you’d watch
more videos like this, or if the quality sacrifice is just too big an adjustment. And if you wanna hear more
about editing on mobile, or wanna suggest the next
5G city I should try out, hit me up on Twitter @theMrMobile. Until next time. Thanks for watching! And stay mobile, my friends. (soft techno music)

100 thoughts on “You Don’t Need A 5G Phone (Yet)

  1. In case you missed the description or the special callouts in the voiceover: this video was shot and edited ENTIRELY on the Galaxy Note 10+ using Adobe Rush! So if you're asking about 16:9 or the reduced resolution or audio quality – there's your answer! 🙂 Otherwise, what do you think? It's been a fun adventure to build this one and I'd love your feedback!

  2. When they use the 700 Mhz wave there are no problems. The building penetration is much better then, although the speeds are lower it's still great. 3.5Ghz covers only about 90m on 1 sector.

  3. You're so original compared to some others youtubers… 👌🏽
    Amazing edit with the Note10+.
    Too bad the videos you took with the Note10+ are heavily compressed. It would have been perfect otherwise…

  4. Honestly, I didn't really even notice the difference between this and your regularly edited content. A little less fancy, but it's honestly astounding.

  5. I totally agree its too early for most people to get a 5G phone but I went and got the Note10+ 5G because I'll have it for 2 year and i expect 5G to be pretty vast in that time

  6. Good recommendation man, more if you consider all those countries and cities where you won't have 5g anytime soon, so if you buy the 5g phone because your neighborhood has 5g, remember you won't have it once you leave that zone.

    Nice video, I didn't feel any problem, lack of quality or anything else, the quality was top high in the content so I wasn't paying attention to video frames, color or definition.

    Video liked as always

  7. Damn I never even noticed the "drop in quality" wtf you talking about? If any I actually enjoyed that this is more minimalist than your usual fare.

  8. While it is technically marvelous that this was shot on mobile device, I do miss your elaborate editing that isn't found in this video. I watch your videos for entertainment, and I am not in the market for the phone reviewed.

  9. Those speeds are insane, but its going to be really interesting to see how they overcome the issue with interference from every day objects. Would be interesting to see them implementing those 5g nodes into elevator shafts of office buildings but of course at that point, you'd be running into the same issue. Also cost would be another major issue as well

  10. I am not planning on upgrading to 5G until probably 2021 or later. For a start, the first network isn't going launch until December 2019 here in NZ in parts of our 3 largest cities. However, the major reason is that as carriers build out 5G, they are likely to also improve LTE Advanced network that my 6T & S10e already connect with. I don't need a low latency multi hundred megabit connection to scroll social, streaming music or watch 1080p YouTube, waiting will only prove advantageous, as handset & connection prices comes down, handset choice widens, bugs are fixed and coverage increases from that of a postage stamp

  11. DEFINITELY not a video sacrifice dude, this came out great. Keep using the Note 10+ for videos, no one will ever complain and see a difference. Great job on this

  12. Someone give him a Rode Wireless mic.. He really does need one. Very very helpful video however and thank you for making me cancel my new 5G Note 10Plus, ordering the 4G version but at least I've got Dual Sim which the 5G Note hasn't got. How stupid is that?

  13. Im honestly really impressed by how good the video was. kudos to samsung for a great phone. if only it had an headphone jack lol

  14. I'm guess the G stands for garbage in this case but the other features sound great . What can we expect from bleeding edge technology . I guess it only gets better from here . Thank you Mr.mobile

  15. You do need 5G as it reduces loads on other bands as well and other network infrastructure. This is a large benefit just like how alternative ways of travel allows for reduction of traffic.
    As phones keep getting faster and content is streamed more often, there is a need especially in high density environments. Huawei 5G networks has been tested in Telus years ago hitting the maximum theoretical speeds.

  16. I like seeing what's possible to do just on a phone. I have a Note 10+, and now I want to try putting something together using only the Note.

  17. I remember being excited for 4G… and dumped my iphone 3g on ATT. for the HTC Evo..what a DISASTER!!!! Sprint still gives me spasms when I think of how BAD the service was…

  18. Too yearly to use for most people anyway. Other than downloading a Netflix show when you are waiting for the plane to take off, how many of us will need 2000 mbps in 2019?

  19. Shockingly well done considering it was made on a phone, but I definitely prefer your voice behind a mic and the overall better quality on usual videos

  20. 5G is such a stupid idea. Physics are physics. Are they planning to spam those antennas every 5 meters. As tech enthusiast as I am, I don't want that…
    What a terrible idea…

  21. 5g seems riddiclous to me they will need millions of nodes and a tree can block it even if your outside they should have waited a few more years till they addressed those issues… if they even can really

  22. The HOTSPOT issue is the cause of Time To Load (TTL) throttling Verizon and all other carriers put upon Tethering and the the limitations of the Wi-Fi chipset not to be confused with the Modem Core on the X50 Qualcomm processor. Change the TTL settings in Terminal on your MacBook to 65 then the Network will think it's coming directly from the phone and give thw highest possible speed.

    On OS X clients the TTL can be set appropriately by pasting the following in terminal:

    sudo sysctl -w net.inet.ip.ttl=65

  23. Video looks and sounds just fine to me. RANT: Too many creators are focused on the pixels, resolution and other technical bullshit. It’s the CONTENT. Good content and a potato camera can still produce a masterpiece.

  24. Just subscribe awesome video it was worth it is worth the subscription and I hit the Notification Bell for more up up-coming videos. P.S don't go to Memphis and try 5G I don't want to see you on First 48 lol😂😂

  25. Wow, that is pretty telling. 5G doesn’t look good at all if all it takes are leaves to disrupt bandwidth.

    You would have to install nodes literally everywhere, which is obviously unsustainable.

  26. Man, I'd watch any video you make whether it's on a phone or PC just cause you make great videos period. So is the fix to these nodes improving on it or is it that the nodes themselves faulty?

  27. Sprint and T-Mobile are going to use a different wave length that has slower speeds but better reception. I feel like that’s the smarter approach

  28. To be honest, the only thing that bothered me a little was the audio quality, but the editing was truly nice. Maybe not at the level of editing on a computer, but definitely close. Oh and it must've been so good to use the Spen to do the editing, I use it to edit photos on my Note 8 and I LOVE it. Great vid! I enjoyed it!

  29. Mate, you look like someone that's up their own a*se, sound like someone that's up their own a*se, and because you're in favour of EMF supported tech, are in fact spreading death and destruction around the world. Too much? Just wait.
    OR do some research, beginning with the EMF scientists' appeal to the united Nations, and become a serious human being. Your choice.

  30. I will use 5G phone in 4 or 5 years. Not in hurry not because they're expensive i think we need more time cause most places are still 4G. Save your bucks.

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